Normalizing Hillary: Connect the Vote Dots

Besides PUMAs, Just Say No Deal Coalition members, and those who have been paying close attention to the 2008 primary process, everyone in the US and some people abroad think that: Obama won the Democratic Primary; therefore, he secured the nomination; and he is being gracious by allowing Clinton’s name to be placed in nomination at the Democratic Convention.

In fact, the Obama and Clinton campaigns issued a joint statement on August 14, 2008 about it, and we have achieved a small victory. Or as Heidi Li Feldman puts it, we’re where we were in the first place. (Oh, forgive me: as Barbra WaWa might say: Were where we whah in the furst pwace.) The MSM is all over the story, asking if we disgruntled old ladies, gays, and republicrats are satisfied now? They claim that we’re just sore losers, and that we want Clinton’s name on the ballot because of her historic win as a woman. They’re touting it as symbolic. It’s not symbolic; it’s normal!

In fact, we are sore winners! Neither candidate won the requisite number of pledged delegates. Instead (rolling eyes, PUMAs repeating themselves, ad infinitum), Nancy Nine Percent Pelosi and Harry Reticent Reed pressured the Democratic Superdelegates to endorse a candidate prior to Denver. This act in turn defies their true purpose: to nominate the candidate who can win POTUS in November. In 2008, there are 855 Superdelegates with FL and MI according to Connect-the-Dots. CNN says it’s 825. Over 200 are uncommitted. Any SD can change their vote through the first ballot in Denver, no matter who they or their state or district endorsed.

Didn’t Hillary run on the assertion that she was the only Democratic candidate who could win the Electoral College in November? The virtual Nobama/McCain dead heat in the polls proves that she wasn’t lyin’, despite Obamamoneys-raised, European jaunts, and a vacay away from the barely investigative, mostly fawning MSM spotlight.

The Obama/DNC presumption is that it’s all a done deal. To dispel any doubts, Invesco Field/Mile High Stadium was booked as the site for what our movement, (and back in the day, Jesse Jackson) calls a coronation. Let’s be clear:

From CNN’s count, we see that neither candidate had the requisite 2,118 pledged delegates as of June 3 to clinch the nomination. Obama had 1763, Clinton had 1640, a 123 delegate lead for BO. It is difficult to find an accurate vote count that shows Hillary Clinton won the most popular votes of any primary candidate in history. Why? Real Clear Politics has Clinton at 18,046,007, Obama at 17,869,542, including MI and FL, with estimates for IA, NV, ME, and WA. There, Clinton nets +176,465 votes.

1. Why does popular vote matter when everyone keeps hammering on the delegate totals? Delegate counts are inconsistent, uneven reflections of the will of the voters, because they include caucuses. Caucuses represent far fewer voters than primaries, yet delegates selected in that process carry more weight.

Worse yet is the impact on the delegate count. While [as of 5/31/08] 2549 delegates earned in the primaries represent an average of 12,225 voters, in the caucuses each of the 515 delegates elected represents a mere 2,110 votes. Each caucus vote, then, is weighted 5.8 times greater than each primary vote when it comes to allocating delegates.

2. Why don’t PUMAs admit that Obama won more caucuses, which is why he won and Hillary lost, and stop changing the rules? In 2008, there are substantiated reports of caucus fraud. Please read Dr. Lynette Long’s research who concludes: “the Obama campaign willfully and intentionally defrauded the American public by systematically undermining the caucus process.”

3. If Obama now has enough delegates when SDs are included, why isn’t he simply the nominee? Superdelegates are party officials — both elected and un-elected. They can vote for whomever they wish at their Convention, regardless of their states’ vote, to make sure the most-electable Democrat becomes the nominee.

4. Why am I still writing about this, when Obama and Clinton agreed on 8/14/08 that Hillary’s name will be placed on the Convention ballot and up for a roll call vote? Because, it should have been automatic, as in every election since 1884. None of the other candidates came anywhere near Clinton, yet it’s a “negotiation”? Look at all these guys who were nominated, without even coming close to their opponents in delegate count. Courtesy of EdgeOfForever:

1972: Ted Kennedy – 12 votes on first ballot
Kennedy had no chance of winning, but his name was placed in nomination.

1976: Ted Kennedy – 1 vote on first ballot
Kennedy had no chance of winning, but his name was placed in nomination.

1980: Jimmy Carter – 1981 delegates
Ted Kennedy – 1225 delegates
Uncommitted – 122
Kennedy had no chance of winning, but his name was placed in nomination.

1984: Jesse Jackson – 465 votes
Jackson had no chance of winning, but his name was placed in nomination.

1988: Jesse Jackson – 1218 votes
Jackson had no chance of winning, but his name was placed in nomination.

2004: John Kerry: 2192.5 Pledged delegates
Howard Dean: 114.5 Pledged delegates
Dean had already dropped out, with no chance of winning, but his name was placed in nomination.

2008: Barack Obama: 1766.5 Pledged delegates
Hillary Clinton: 1639.5 Pledged delegates

5. Who are the delegates, and why shouldn’t they just go along with the DNC’s choice, Barack Obama? Delegates are elected by their grassroots supporters to go to the Democratic convention as representatives of the total votes cast in their state’s districts. Although they each may represent thousands of HRC voters, they can just change their votes as if we, the US voters, are not even in the picture! According to CNN,

Pledged delegates are not actually bound to vote for the candidate. Consequently, candidates are allowed on a state-by-state basis to review lists of delegates who have pledged their support and can delete anyone whose support they consider unreliable.

Surprise you? This could account for the DNC’s treatment of Clinton delegate, Sacha Millstone, or even what happened in Florida right after June 3, when Obama’s campaign began replacing his elected delegates with their own. I’m still not getting how someone who represents your, or my, or anyone’s vote could be intimidated into changing it and have that be part of the deal. Our deal. You know, the one we get as citizens. The deal, the one true thing we’ve got in this country that our guys and all those Iraqis are supposedly dying for and about. That democracy one person one vote representative thing.

6. How can the DNC represent the will of the people, if the delegates are pressured to support Obama as if he is the nominee, and they are afraid to publicly declare otherwise? How can there be “unity” if Hillary Clinton is allowed to be booed unchecked at even one of his events? DNC chairs and party officials, and delegates are being intimidated and threatened to not cast THEIR votes for Hillary Clinton. These are not THEIR votes. These votes are OURS. The delegates are merely our proxies. If not us, who DO they represent? How is this representative government?

Whether you agree or disagree, please learn about the process. Watch this three-part series, Democrats ’08: CONNECT-THE-DOTS, with Host Leslie Stevens. The program is sponsored by The Educational Foundation for the Integrity of the Democratic Process, Asheville, North Carolina. Bloggers, please post it! Readers, email it to friends and family.

[Connect-the-Dots Part 1]

[Connect-the-Dots Part 2]

[Connect-the-Dots Part 3]

Have you connected the dots? That’s why we’re not satisfied. It’s about the process being fair and reflecting the will of the voters. And, you can help!!! Call or email your delegates or any that you know. Ask them to sign the 300 delegate petition to ensure that Hillary’s name is placed in nomination. This petition was created by and for delegates. Email: hrc300delegates@yahoo.com.

Still, we’re not ready to make nice. . . .

[160 Years and Still Waiting — Rise Hillary Rise by DemocracyDame]

h/t to DemocracyDame for “Connect-the-Dots” lead and her video above.

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8 thoughts on “Normalizing Hillary: Connect the Vote Dots

  1. There has been an interesting shift in the numbers in recent days. The Obama camp suddenly and for there own gain, accepted the original results of the FL and MI primaries. By default that gave Clijnton a bunch more delegates. He/Obama is sitting on about 1740 delegates and Clinton now has around 1690.

    Plus if Politico.com is correct, they reported that the Super D’s are now Obama 271 and Clinton 268. With almost 170 undecided. That doesn’t total all the super’s but it makes it much more interesting.

    John Kerry was ahead of Bush by 13 points the weeks prior to the conventions. BO is ahead but within the margin of error. And almost all the south is in the McCain camp or moving there quickly.

    Enjoyed the article and let’s hope the super-delegates find the………I’ll say it.. Balls, to vote their conscience.

    Still supporting the stronger candidate

  2. It seems the priorities are all wrong with this convention:
    ““The convention is about nominating Barack, so his people want to speed through the vote as fast as possible so it won’t take too much TV time,” said a Democratic delegate who plans to vote for Clinton.
    This entire election has been conceived as one long infomercial – if our votes look good on TV they’ll be allowed in – otherwise, who cares?
    And that comes from a delegate.
    We need to do a lot of education to counteract this feather headed propaganda.

  3. Here’s the “Contact Us” address for the DNC, along with a good message for them:

    info@demconvention.com

    Your website only mentions Obama’s acceptance speech. Where will Hillary Clinton’s acceptance speech be held if she is nominated? When will this be posted? Thanks for any information!!

  4. Excellent rundown! It provides the full-context of why we are so up in arms!!
    Some more tidbits about some of the events this week…note the Josh Green, Shipler-Shipley press backgrounders…

    THE PAST WEEK…Recaps and Rambling Thoughts-August 10-16 (Howard Dean Does a Jackass Proud; A Note on The Atlantic’s Josh Green; Shipler/Shipley; Saddleback)

    http://tinyurl.com/5mr94j

    http://insightanalytical.wordp

  5. Hi LadyBoomer and all: Comprehensive and well done article. There is no way to come to the conclusion that the DNC process represents any significant respect to “one-person, one-vote.” The power brokers of the DNC have basically figured out how to use their own version of “affirmative action” to produce the results they want and the Obama staff did a great job or exploiting all the vulnerabilities that the power brokers allowed. It is collusion to the max.

    As for the popular primaryvote, I have harped and harped and harped on this, it seems like forever, and did my own calculations of four different scenarios for counting the popular vote (there are different arguments about how to count it) and Clinton won in 3 out of the 4 possible scenarios and won the most comprehensive scenario, hands down!

    So, what happens… Schuster interviews our people (Murphy and Bowers) and GETS AWAY WITH ALLEGING OBAMA WON THE POPULAR VOTE AND THEY DON’T CALL HIM ON IT OR PROVIDE SOURCES FOR THE CORRECT DATA — EDUCATE HIM AND THE PUBLIC.

    Instead, the MSM meme keeps hammering us with propaganda alleging Obama won the popular vote. Where are the ads? Denver Group? Keep it simple…

    Democracy or What?

    Do you believe in the popular vote? If you do, then you should believe in Senator Hillary Clinton. She won it. She should get it.

  6. Glad to have you back ladyboomer. I missed you, hope your hand will get better.

    I’m getting so excited about the convention, I just still think Hillary is going to pull it out. And it’s going to be because Obama is going to implode! Too many dirty little secrets and they’re going to come out. I just hope it happens in time to get Hillary the nomination, so she can beat McCain.

    Keep up the good work, and take care yourself first!

  7. Good summary of the situation at hand!

    I want to advise everyone that the email address that the DNCC has posted as that of Phil McNamara, a conference coordinator, at AskPhil@DemConvention.com is sending back email as spam.

    This does not indicate that the DNCC wants to receive any email, be it comment or question, about the upcoming convention.

    I would urge all to spread this information to all your lists including all media and group lists.

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